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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: December 20, 2010 7:44 pm
Edited on: December 20, 2010 7:52 pm
It was wrong to rank Cleveland State last week.

Now it's inexplicable.

Let's do some Poll Attacks.

Associated Press poll: Cleveland State got 15 points in last week's AP poll and just one this week, which means everybody who was voting for the Vikings despite the fact that they had no notable wins stopped voting for them after Saturday's double-digit loss to West Virginia. Except for Steve Deshazo from the Free Lance-Star in Virginia. He had Cleveland State 25th on his ballot this week despite the fact that they -- stop me if you've heard this before -- have no notable wins ... and a double-digit loss to West Virginia.

Seriously, what has Cleveland State done to be ranked?

The Vikings aren't propped up by preseason expectations (like Memphis and Baylor), and they haven't done anything in the season (like UCF) to warrant votes. All they've done is beat bad teams and lose by 11 points to West Virginia. And yet Steve has the Vikings ranked 25th.

And do you want to know the best part?

He didn't rank West Virginia at all.

You know, West Virginia, the team that just beat Cleveland State by 11.

You know, West Virginia, the only good team Cleveland State has played.

Coaches poll: I used this space last week to compliment the coaches and their very reasonable coaches poll, and it took them exactly one week to revert to idiocy. No UCF? Really? I'll be honest, I didn't think the Knights would be good this season, either. I mean, they've never really been good. But at some point -- and that point is now -- you have to credit teams who have success, and UCF has been successful.

The Knights are 10-0.

They have a win over a Florida team that's ranked 19th thanks to wins over No. 11 Kansas State and Florida State. They also have a win over a Miami team that's beaten West Virginia and Ole Miss, and played No. 17 Memphis to the final minute. In other words, UCF is undefeated with two quality wins, and that should be enough to get ranked.

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 14, 2011 1:51 am

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Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: December 22, 2010 6:05 am

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So UCF deserves credit because they have a win over Florida?  So does Jacksonville University.  Big deal.  I have nothing against UCF, but if you're ripping Cleveland State for having no notable wins, don't give too much credit to UCF for a win against over-rated Florida when the Gators have one win over a rated team.

Since: Jan 28, 2009
Posted on: December 21, 2010 7:17 pm

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Gary-  Keep ripping Cleveland State, without knowing anything about them.  They will make you look bad again like they did two years ago.  They are 12-1...bad teams dont win all those games.  They beat four likely tourney teams in Kent St., Iona, Sam Houston & Robert Morris.  Find something meaningful to write about, and get some talent.

Since: Mar 18, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 4:01 pm

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Time will tell, but if Duke goes to FSU and can't win by more then the OSU did (14),, and when MSU goes to Columbus and OSU wins by a lot more then the 6 points Duke beat them by, there will be a lot more "idiots" (as you say) coming out of the woodwork.

Since: Mar 25, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2010 1:17 pm

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bigger atrocity is one idiot who voted ohio st #1.  is he osu homer or duke hater or just plain stupid?

at least guy in viriginia probably never heard of cleveand st, our 51st state located somewhere in south pole, so he could have made an honest mistake, but making mockery of polling by going against duke is just plain unforgiveable. 

who was the idiot?

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2010 10:41 am

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What makes the Steve Deshazo thing make even less sense is, why would a guy from a no-name paper in VIRGINIA have an irrational bias in favor of Cleveland State?  Is there some pride thing in Virginia that makes homestaters totally disregard West Virginia?  If there is, it would explain why (a) Deshazo didn't pay any mind whatsoever to the WVU win over Cleveland, and/or (b) he didn't count it against Cleveland because he has so little respect for WVU.

It seems more likely that he didn't even know Cleveland had lost.  In any case, he seems to have no business having a vote. 

Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: December 21, 2010 9:52 am

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Excellent points. Thanks for posting this. I guess the only counter-argument would be that it's too early in the season for rankings to matter? But even I don't buy that.... Thanks for posting this.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2010 2:22 am

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I will never understand why the Free Lance Star has a vote.

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