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Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Posted on: October 18, 2010 10:04 am
Edited on: October 18, 2010 10:15 am
That's a question I've been asked many times since Robbie Hummel tore his anterior cruciate ligament at Saturday morning's practice, and I'm afraid Purdue fans won't like my answer. But here's the truth: The Boilermakers shouldn't be considered Big Ten contenders anymore, which means they can't be ahead of Michigan State or Ohio State. I'd also hesitate to keep them ahead of Illinois. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'd probably start Purdue somewhere between 17th and 22nd in the country, and around fourth in the Big Ten (although that fourth in the Big Ten could easily be fifth or sixth if you like Wisconsin and/or Minnesota).

In other words, this is just as bad as you think.

Programs like Purdue can consistently be good, but they only get shots at greatness every once in a while. Hummel's torn ACLs -- first last season, then this season -- have taken away two of those shots. I genuinely believe the Boilermakers would've been a No. 1 seed and Final Four participant last season if Hummel was never injured, and they would've been contenders just the same this season if not for Saturday's awkward fall. Now fourth in the Big Ten seems like a reasonable goal. It's not fair. It's just reality.

But I really do hope Purdue overachieves and proves me wrong.

I hate being wrong, as you know.

But I wouldn't mind being wrong about this.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Oct 22, 2010
Posted on: October 22, 2010 10:48 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

BattlingBucknut...I love how you just brush by losing Evan Turner: "Buckeyes return 5 starters minus Evan Turner" like it's no big deal. You return 4 starters and lost the BEST PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY. Sorry...I think you will contend for the Big Ten title, but it's going to come down to MSU and Purdue in the end. Purdue has 2 all-american candidates in Johnson and Moore and everyone else has improved. It's going to be fun year in the Big Ten nonetheless, but do NOT count out Purdue just because Hummel is gone. One of the freshmen could just as easily step up just like Hummel did his freshmen year and shock us all...

Since: Jul 21, 2010
Posted on: October 21, 2010 10:52 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

You can beleive what you want to Bolier fan, but your core is not better than Ohio State's, not even close now that Robbie is lost for the season.  Buckeyes return all 5 starters minus Evan Turner from a Bigten regular season championship and BigTen Conference Tournament Championship, 29 win team.  Diebler is one of the best pure shooters and consistant 3pt snipers in the country, Dallas Luaderdale is a giant low block presence that can block and rebound as good as anyone down low in the BigTen, David Lighty is a proven all BigTen swing player that is one of the best and most versital defenders in the nation, many times taking the best scorer or low block in the 1-3-1, and can light it up when asked, and William Bufford is another long and strong swing man that will be mentioned with all conference and national awards, a 3 year starer with NBA Draft pick a certainty, he can score at will will his smooth jumper, or low post moves, and another 3pt specialist...THEN you have the guy replacing Turner in this Thad Five line-up, J. Sullinger at center, he is the #1 player in the nation according to many publications, a top 5 for sure.  He is smart, big, physical, and can go 20/10 every night, most likey a lottery pick after 1 season, that good.  Overall the 5 new guys comming in are a top3 class in the nation, with 2 blue chip point guards, and a 5 star power forward in Thomas.

Purdue is still a very good club and a good starter five or core, but no where near the talent and depth of Ohio State, especially after losing Robbie, again.

Since: Jan 28, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2010 1:43 pm

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Mark this down guys. Wisconsin will win the Big Ten this year. No I'm not kidding. They are better than last years team, and possibly by alot.
Granted, they probably are better than last year, but they're not better than Purdue and Michigan State THIS year.  
I'm a bit biased, I don't deny that... but I still think Purdue is the second best team in the big ten and top 5 in the nation.  Fortunately for them and unfortunately for Hummel, they know how to play without him and still will be a force.

Since: Feb 13, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2010 2:24 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

I'm trying to make sense of this.  You have Moore and Johnson as 2nd team All Americans, and yet this team is only as good as 4th in the Big Ten?


I'm going to assume you would have made Hummel a 1st or 2nd team All American if he was not injured, but only Sullinger (OSA) and Leuer (Wisconsin) are other Big Ten players in your top 15.

Have you evaluated the incoming talent for Purdue, or considered Matt Painter's ability to get more out of his players than most coaches?

Have you differentiated that this team has a couple of months to learn how to play without Hummel, where before they had to adjust on the fly near season's end?

I think the comments made by kenpom at


make a lot of sense.  If you're saying that Purdue drops as far as 22nd in the country without Hummel, shouldn't that mean that you'd have to make all the teams you rank above them a top 3 team if they had Hummel?  Can you really say that about all those teams?

I don't think Purdue would be "overachieving" by either winning the Big Ten, or finishing in the top 3.  The Big Ten will be the best conference this year and such a finish would be hard with or without Hummel.  I also don't think it would be an "overachievement" should Purdue advance far into the NCAA tournament.

They've got a couple of All Americans, a great coach, more depth than last year, some good new talent, and a lot of experience, improving on a team that stuck with Duke last year for 30 minutes.  If Hummel made this a top 3 team, I think without him they drop to a top 10 to 15 team, but one hell of a tough one that no one will want to play.

Since: Jul 6, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2010 1:09 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

It's a damn shame.  I hope nothing for the best for Hummel in the future.  It would have been a real treat to watch this team at full strength.

Since: Aug 24, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2010 11:14 pm

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

This article is another blinding flash of the obvious. 

Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2010 4:36 pm

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Mark this down guys. Wisconsin will win the Big Ten this year. No I'm not kidding. They are better than last years team, and possibly by alot.

Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2010 12:18 pm

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

First off, love the radio show. I listen to it every day. Now, about Purdue, I agree that this injury (sadly) will hurt them a great deal. I would not move Purdue anywhere in the rankings right now. If they are moved now, it shows the kids playing ball everything that their coaches tell them is not true: one person does not make a team. Let them decide everything on the court. Who knows? Someone could step up and be a star that no one has ever heard of. If they lose some games, then drop them. But don't penalize them for something that happened outside of a game.

Since: Apr 30, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2010 10:14 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

I would say ranked around 15th, give or take a few spots.  I put little value in preseason rankings as every year is a new year and team chemistry often changes.  It will be interesting to see who steps up and IMO Purdue is in need of a banger on the inside who simply plays defense and rebounds.  If they find that guy, they will be very dangerous for both a Big Ten title and a run in the tourney.  I have followed this team forever and rare is the occasion that they are short on guts or effort.

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2010 10:05 am

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

I can see the point that he might not want to risk another tear and then have to go through rehab yet again, but from what his dad is saying it sounds like he is set on coming back next year.  He is already planning for another academic year and figuring out what classes to take in graduate school next year.  This year may be less than it should have been, but next year we would have been fairly void of leadership so next year will be much better than it would have been (assuming lightning doesn't strike again).

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