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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: December 29, 2008 6:46 pm
Edited on: December 29, 2008 6:54 pm

Guess who's back in the Poll Attacks?

Yep, George Geise.

Pacman Jones has a better chance of staying out of strip clubs than George does of staying out of this blog, but that's the price that must be paid by men with inexplicable AP ballots. Ladies and gentlemen, the Poll Attacks are in session.

AP poll: Only 71 people voted in last week's AP poll, meaning somebody just up and decided not to turn in a ballot, and that somebody was George Geise from Montana, who has become something of a regular here at the Poll Attacks.

(Try this Poll Attack or this Poll Attack, if you want to catch-up on George's previous antics.)

Did I run him off?

Did he decide he didn't need to be scrutinized by some smartass with goofy hair?

I felt somewhat responsible for his disappearance. So you can understand my relief when I learned that all 72 ballots were turned in this week, which means George didn't quit as much as he just stopped paying attention, and when I say he stopped paying attention, I mean he really stopped paying attention, because he now has three-loss Gonzaga ranked fifth in the country.

Now I love the Zags as much as anybody; I ranked them 16th in the Top 25 (and one), and folks were asking if I have a man crush on Mark Few. So I can only imagine what those same folks think of George, who has the Zags ranked fifth -- ahead of Wake Forest, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame and a whole bunch of other schools that should be in front of them. It's wild. But honestly, I'm just glad George is back, because an AP poll with less than 72 voters is an incomplete AP poll, and we shouldn't be forced to live with an incomplete AP poll, not in these already difficult times.

Also, at the risk of piling on, I feel obligated to point out this: George had Xavier ranked 16th when Xavier was 6-0. Since then, the Musketeers have gone 3-2 (with losses to Butler and Duke) to drop their record to 9-2, and now George has the Musketeers ranked 12th. In other words, Xavier has dropped two of its past five games and moved up four spots on George's ballot, and I can't even begin to understand the logic, but it sure is fun trying.

Coaches poll: I'm shocked that Butler wasn't ranked by the coaches, and as a young guy like Brad Stevens I'm claiming age discrimination against the 32-year-old coach, because there really is no other explanation.

The Bulldogs are 10-1. Their only loss came on the road and by three points to the team ranked 23rd in this poll (Ohio State), and that game was tied with less than four minutes remaining. Meantime, Butler has wins at Cleveland State, at Bradley and at Xavier, which is ranked 22nd in this poll. And yet somehow the Bulldogs couldn't crack the top 25 even though Louisville (one questionable loss, one terrible loss and no good wins) came in at No. 18.


And I'll just say this: There's no way Butler doesn't have one of the nation's best 25 resumes.

No. Way.

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Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2008 10:45 pm

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Wow you are a homer....the way you talk about MD being such a bad loss.  Have you looked at their resume.  They have played 4 top 25 teams - beat Mich and Mich St. and lost to Gtown and Gonzaga.  Now with that resume, they should be ranked, but we all know rankings are just a popularity contest at this point anyway.  That loss is not such a bad loss especially w/out Suton.  MD will have trouble with bigger teams this year, but the major issue with their inconsistency over the past few seasons has been TOs and currently they are averaging the fewest TOs per game in the ACC.  The jury is still out on MD, but don't discount that loss....they may be better than you think.


Since: Aug 19, 2007
Posted on: December 30, 2008 6:30 pm

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Some of these people are just idiots, but I also think certain pollsters interpret the rankings in a different way. While most people rank teams based on their recent performances, others might fill out their top 25 based on potential and not results. That would explain why Gonzaga and Xavier are over-ranked-- still, I don't see how you could move someone UP after losing (like Geise did). I could maybe understand ranking them the same or only dropping them a few spots though.

Since: Sep 26, 2007
Posted on: December 30, 2008 2:43 pm

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Hey Parrish how about some top 25 love for the 2009 Michigan state champions, the Maryland Terrapins. They beat both Michigan and Michigan State who are both ranked, and their only losses were to Gonzaga and G-Town both of whom are ranked.

They're 9-2 (same as Michigan State who they whooped) and will be 10-2 after tonight.

Oh wait, I know, Gary Williams is on the hot seat and you don't want to admit they might be better than everyone expected. And therefore your fantasy of Gary Williams getting fired might not happen now.

Since: Dec 30, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2008 2:21 pm

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I can't believe I left off Butler, either.

You guys ever see the old movie 'The Shining?' Well, that's Montana in the winter. From Oct to May. Not much to do; I've prepared my ballots weeks ahead. I've recently completed the season and I'm working on my conference  tourny brackets. Then AA brackets, then ballots again. Sometimes I just mail off the wrong one, thats all. If I can get to the mailbox.

Now that my secret is out I'm ready to take my medicine like a man. Like Big Green at Ford Field a couple weeks back.

Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2008 12:21 pm

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George Geise must be crazy!  I looked at his ballot.  Not only does he have Gonzaga at #5, but he has Syracue at #22, Xavier at #12, and doesn't even have Butler on his ballot!  I wonder if he even pays attention!  He needs to lose his voting priviliges!!!!!

Since: Dec 8, 2008
Posted on: December 30, 2008 12:12 pm

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Michigan is gunna stomp state. how are the spartans ranked lower? well UM beat 2 top 5 teams. Spartans have 1 victory over Texas. They both lost to maryland. and UM's only other loss is to duke. The spartans have looked horrible besides the game against texas. they got stomped by maryland

Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: December 30, 2008 11:23 am

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I think George is having fun with you Gary.  He picks one team each week to pull your chain with.  I predict next week he will be the only one not to vote North Carolina #1 (assuming they keep winning this week).

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2008 11:21 am

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MSU doesn't rely on one player.  No one said MSU relies on one player. 

ANYONE who thinks UM has a better team than MSU is a fool and should not be posting on college basketball sites.  This goes for Parish too.

UM has a nice team and some good players, they will be much improved and they will be hard to beat.  They will not finish higher than MSU in the Big 10 though.  No matter how many players they have.  I will agree that UM is better than Gonzaga. 


Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: December 30, 2008 10:37 am

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if msu is has everything riding on one player to win big games they are in trouble against michigan a team that will easily go ten deep and very good shooters to boot, lok out msu a train is coming!!!


Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: December 30, 2008 9:09 am

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Parish has Michigan State ranked behind Gonzaga and Michigan and he claims others are not paying attention?  Granted, I am a Spartan fan so I am a little bit of a homer but.....

MSU is 9-2, with both losses coming without one of their top players (Suton) who just returned from injury.  One of the losses was a blowout to North Carolina which is clearly a much better team.  The other loss was a bad one (Maryland) and the Spartans should be downgraded for that one as they should have won even without Suton.  Oh, the Spartans beat #5 Texas in Houston.

Gonzaga has three losses (Arizona, UCONN, and Portland State).  We can forgive the UCONN loss but Arizona and Portland state were much worse losses that the MSU loss.  (Yes the Zags did blow out maryland but anyone who thinks Maryland would beat MSU again is crazy...maryland is not a very good team.  If you can say Gonzaga gets a mulligan for the AZ and PS losses, MSU should get a mulligan for the Maryland loss)  Gonzaga has no wins against  a quality team while MSU beat Texas.

Somehow, Parish ranks Gonzag
a ahead of the Spartans and he is ripping on others for not paying attention and raking Gonzaga too high?   MSU's bad loss to Maryland hurts them worse than Gonzaga's two bad losses?  MSU beats #5 Texas, on the road, and doesn't move up Parish's rankings?

How does Parish explain ranking UM over MSU?  Is he really foolish enough to beleive that the Wolverines will finish above the Spartans in the Big 10? 

Parish's absurd love of Gonzaga is actually worse than Geise.  At least Geise can claim that he is a homer.  Parish is supposed to be a national writer so he ought to know a little bit more about the national scene.

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