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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: November 24, 2008 3:44 pm
Edited on: November 25, 2008 9:40 am

There was a tournament in Puerto Rico this past weekend.

Apparently nobody watched it.

Which was bad for them but good for the Poll Attacks.

AP poll: This week let's just examine the ballot of George Geise of the Great Falls Tribune in Montana, who clearly has no idea what happened in the Puerto Rico Tip-off and thus has one of the craziest ballots of all the AP voters. Consider that he doesn't have Xavier on his ballot even though Xavier beat Missouri, Virginia Tech and Memphis to win the event, and that wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that he ranked the teams that finished second (Memphis), third (Seton Hall) and sixth (USC) in the tournament.

Seriously, Geise has Memphis at No. 13, USC at No. 19 and Seton Hall at No. 24.

But he omitted Xavier completely.

They must not have ESPN2 in Montana.

That's the only explanation.

Coaches poll: The coaches poll has never seemed practical to me because the reality is that most coaches don't have time to keep up with what's going on around the nation. Coaches run practices, handle media requests, meet with boosters, recruit and scout upcoming opponents, and if you've ever talked to a coach you know there's a good chance he has no idea what's happening outside of his league or with the teams on his schedule.

Proof of this came in this week's coaches poll.

Because Southern California got four votes.

(So George Geise isn't the only one not paying attention.)

Look, you won't find a bigger fan of USC's talent and potential than me; I love what that team might be in March. But right now the Trojans are 3-2 with losses to Seton Hall and Missouri, and thus in no position to be on anybody's Top 25 ballot. Still, the Trojans got four votes, which is hilarious because it's four more than Seton Hall and Missouri combined to get in the coaches poll. In other words, USC has two losses to two teams that no coach felt worthy of a Top 25 ranking, and yet the Trojans still made their way onto at least one coach's ballot.

I wonder if the guilty coach is from Montana?

That could explain a lot.

Category: NCAAB

Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 5:51 pm

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He never said Montana wasn't a wonderful state.  One of their sports cloumnists is just an idiot...that's all.  If you don't watch college basketball, you shouldn't have a vote in the AP poll.  That's the only point Parrish is making.

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 1:50 pm

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Parrish-- I used to work summers in Montana and we had a saying about the state:

  "Montana--where the men are men, and the sheep are scared."

Perhaps Giese was distracted by spending too much time with his girlfriend. Baaaaaa!!!!

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 1:47 pm

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Parrish--I worked summers in Montana and we used to have a saying about the state:


Since: Jul 15, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 1:14 pm

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Thank goodness basketball polls are pointless, and championion is decided fairly ever year in a playoff!!
It wouldn't be a thread unless there's someone complaining about the college football BCS system. Come on people, you should at least be consistent. Either everything gets decided by a playoff or not: Presidential Election? Have all the candidates (and their "running mates") compete in a series of three-legged races to determine the president. Job applications? Sack race. Divorce Court? Best of three "Horse" competition.

Since: Jan 28, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 12:17 pm

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I love the Poll Attacks.  I would love it even more if you went and found George Geise's email address and linked it from the article so we could all spam him with emails about his moroninity.  Maybe if voters realized there was some penalty of shame for being a doofus they would pay more attention.

Since: Jun 18, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2008 11:59 am

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Nothing new here.... voters not paying attention to what is actually going on out there? No you don't say..........

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: November 25, 2008 10:46 am

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Truer words have never been spoken. Thank God.

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2008 11:18 pm

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Thank goodness basketball polls are pointless, and championion is decided fairly ever year in a playoff!!

Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: November 24, 2008 6:54 pm

Parrish Underrates Pitt Regularly

Yes, they have not been very successful in the NCAA Tournament, but they have had great success in the Big East (considered the toughest conference by many).  Over the past 5 years or so, Parrish and the other writers on this website have rated Pitt far lower than the other polls.

What are they basing it on?  Maybe Pitt's history of mediocre performance in the NCAA?  Perhaps a desire to shake things up a little so that there is something, anything at all that distinguishes Sportsline's writers from the rest of sports media?

I don't know.  Pittsburgh is healthy and strong in the frontcourt and backcourt.  They will get their lumps in that conference, but this is a talented team with veteran leadership that should not be ranked poorly THIS year based on their performance in past tournaments. 

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2008 6:19 pm

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This is why I hate polls, especially this early in a season.

The coaches definitely aren't paying much attention though...

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